September marks the first official retirement days of two mortgage lending titans.
 
In their final, official roles David Stevens served as the head of the Mortgage Bankers Association and Brad Blackwell was the executive vice president of housing policy and homeownership growth strategies at Wells Fargo Home Lending.
 
But where did it all begin? 

How did they meet and how did their careers blossom into the top positions they would eventually use to become of the most influential members of the mortgage community?
 
And find out their real feelings about mortgage lending today. Do they think we’re heading in the right direction? Listen and find out.